| 26. | By ccl (chungchenling) from ROC |
2010-09-10 |
| To kmarinas86 :
You have some good points. Personally, I think the imminent UFO sighting will not happen. It is hard to imagine UFO sighting frequency is so intense so that no body can deny the existence of UFO. It is even more hard to imagine the Chinese government will act on buildng embassy as a result of this UFO sightings.
I really hope it can happen. but I think it is not good chance to happen. But who knows? maybe Elohim like it to happen. So let us wait and see what will come in this one year time frame. |
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| 25. | By kmarinas86 (kamarinas at uh d0t edu)  from Space City, USA |
2010-09-08 |
| "Rael predicted new imminent wave of UFO sightings [in China]." To make any sense of the evidence that would either verify or invalidate this prediction, you must compare it to something. To detect a spike in UFO sightings in China, you must have knowledge of prior UFO sightings in China. For example, what is the quantity and quality of these sightings? How long was the average sighting? How long were previous UFO waves in China? How has the response to UFO sightings in China changed over the years? Is the Chinese government's attitude towards UFOs changing in favor of an extraterrestrial hypothesis? One should also question the assumption that a wave should be obvious after one year. If the objective will be to permit construction of an trans-terrestrial embassy in China in the 2020's, then how would a doubling of sightings every Chinese New Year be perceived? Wouldn't that be too disruptive? Click my home link icon above to see various UFO videos. |
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| 24. | By Zana Elf (zanaloveselfies at yahoo d0t co d0t uk) from Sunderland |
2010-09-07 |
| "The album or photo that you were attempting to view either does not exist, or requires user privileges that you do not possess. " oops spoke to soon, the artwork is gone, how sad :-( |
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| 23. | By ccl (chungchenling at yahoo d0t com) from roc |
2010-09-05 |
| Rael predicted new imminent wave of UFO sightings. This prediction should be easily checked in a year's time frame. So Let us decide if he is a fraud or not by this prediction. |
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| 22. | By kmarinas86 (kamarinas at uh d0t edu) from Space City, USA |
2010-08-30 |
| Predictions by themselves only lead to religion anyway. The question is whether the evidence fulfills those predictions or not. If not, do they contradict the predictions, or are they simply insufficient? If so, only time will tell. The "religion of the infinite" is the final "religion" according to the Raelian message. This final religion won't be Raelian in the sense of a movement or change which aspires people in a new direction. When the time comes that the final "religion" is accepted by all, they are already there, then change is only within it and not having any need or desire to try to convince others. It will be less argument and explaining and more Sensual Meditation. |
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| 21. | By ccl (chungchenling at yahoo d0t com) from ROC |
2010-08-29 |
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After reading boring title Matriya, I decide to write again. I think people should concentrate on scientific evidences, not on those titles or ancient predictions. Those ancient predictions are vague and unreliable. Again, Raelian movement is too religious and science knowlege is largely ignored. This is not good. |
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| 20. | By Megan (mnewguard at gmail d0t com) from Seattle |
2010-08-25 |
| I read Rael's did n't think much of it. I was invited to a seminar. spent about a week and enjoyed some of the lectures and the meditation. I saw nudity but no orgies. I was given literature regarding the order of the angels. I also observed young girls who were vying for Rael's attention. still have not figured that one out yet.
Seemed to be an inner circle and the rest acted like sheep as in most religions.My questions were not always answered easily and we were pretty much told what to do and were to go for the day. We were silicited for money for Rael(not the embassy) on the way out the door on the last day. It is my understanding that this is the normal procedure for all seminars. In my conversations with one of his bishops I found her to be very bizarre. They seem to love attention be it good or bad. This was back in the days of Canada and I wish I had pictures of that place.
It had CULT propoganda written all over it. |
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| 19. | By kmarinas86 (kamarinas at uh d0t edu) from Space City, USA |
2010-08-17 |
| Concerning the testimony from Sage Ali. "For those who don't have the book, here are a few quotes, all from the same section on pages 222 - 223 of Intelligent Design:" Sage Ali claims: "It seems like the speaker changes a few times, yet it's evidently supposed to be the same person speaking throughout the whole section!" This is wrong. It only changes one time! The text from "YOU will follow the Guide of Guides...." all the way to "....an embassy to welcome our creators." was written as though a Raelian Guide, other than Rael, was writing it. The 'speaker' changes once at "If you wish to help me realize the goals set by the Elohim, write to me, Rael..." and it does not reverse thereafter in this section. Summary: ONE _TIME_, not a FEW _TIMES_. Source: The section titled "The Guides" in the book "Intelligent Design" by Rael. |
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| 18. | By kmarinas86 (kamarinas at uh d0t edu) from Space City, USA |
2010-08-17 |
| youtube(dot)com/watch?v=eO_Mmssa3xM 1:49 to 2:28 "uh... I know some very, very famous economists, right now, are saying, are trying to save the dollar, by saying we need emergency measures, like making it impossible to expel people from their house, like saving bank by printing more dollar, but this can save the situation for few month... maybe maybe a 1 year or 2. But not more. Because when you print money on paper, then the competition with a other currencies will bring the dollar lower and lower, and then it will accelerate the processes of destruction of the world financial institution." The 2010 Reality (2 years after this video): There is more money printing than ever. Foreclosures are UP. Bank failures are UP. The money did nothing to "solve" the problems that politicians claimed (LIED) that it was able solve. The point from 1:49 to 2:28 is about many impending failures of financial institutions worldwide! GDPs, jobs, inventories, trade balances, etc. are secondary matters. |
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| 17. | By kmarinas86 (kamarinas86 at uh d0t edu) from Space City, USA |
2010-08-17 |
| youtube(dot)com/watch?v=eO_Mmssa3xM 0:30 to 1:49 "The King of the Money, the Dollar, is in freefall, and I think it will not stop. And uh, the only solution, the Elohim explained to us, is the creation of a world government and a world currency, which is a first step towards the diss-dissaparance of money at large. But in first step, for, for a few, a few years, we need a world currency to save the world. auh Really to save the world, because a if a ik continue like that... now with the free fall of the dollar, then the d-destruction of all the financial organization and banks and money system. Then all the money will follow, and then it can create a lot of wars, and uh uh lot of uh starvation, and billions of people dying... and i-itsa possible it triggers uh a world nuclear war, and with a complete destruction of humanity. The only way to save humanity is a creation of a world government and a world currency." |
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| 16. | By kmarinas86 (kamarinas at uh d0t edu) from Space City, USA |
2010-08-16 |
| Concerning the testimony from Sage Ali. "In truth, the real Buddha was North Indian, and from all accounts he was tall and most likely had a very slim physique." The real Buddha was born in what is now Nepal and died in what is now India. His ethnicity was "Shakya" and was more "Asian" than current Indians. The Persian and Greek conquests in the BCE era has altered the face of India. "...the first anthropomorphic representations of the Buddha himself are often considered a result of the Greco-Buddhist interaction. Before this innovation, Buddhist art was 'aniconic': the Buddha was only represented through his symbols..." Source: Wikipedia. |
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| 15. | By kmarinas86 (kamarinas at uh d0t edu) from Space City, USA |
2010-08-16 |
| Concerning the testimony from Sage Ali. "Why would Buddha be fat (or 'corpulent' as Rael wrote)...?" By the standards of a 1970s Frenchman, what counts as being corpulent? The French have long been regarded as slender and long-living, supposedly due to genetics, however recent evidence has fried this notion as the French have been dosing upon fast food. In a US state bordering Louisiana with 38% the population of France and 3% more land area, also known as Texas, "corpulent" would mean someone who is clinically obese. Based on pictures of Rael at a young age, it is fair to say that he remained thin for most of his life, so a man who is "corpulent" according to a Frenchman in 1970's may pass for having a "healthy weight" using the BMI index. Source: Wikipedia. |
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| 14. | By kmarinas86 (kamarinas at uh d0t edu) from Space City, USA |
2010-08-16 |
| Concerning the testimony from Sage Ali. "...25,000 years ago when we landed on Earth." "Some 22,000 years ago, your creators decided to start their work on Earth..." "Which number above is correct?...Ask Rael or a guide and see if you get a good answer. Remember, details are important!" They sure are. Why does "22,000 years" appear only in the book 1 time while "25,000 years" appears 13 times? Since 22,000 years is 3,000 years less than 25,000 years, is it any coincidence the next paragraph starts with the sentence, "The Age of Pisces was the age of Christ."? Astrological ages span 2,160 years (using the 30 degree method). "Some 22,000 years" means "About 22,000 years". Consider that 22,350 years plus 2,160 years adds up to 24,510 years. The section which has been quoted here concerns the Church which began "some 2,000 years ago". Therefore, the usage of "22,000 years" in this section in particular can be seen as more than a mere typo. |
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| 13. | By chenling (chungchenling at yahoo d0t com) from ROC |
2010-08-16 |
| In response to this sentence:
"A world reserve currency other than the US dollar and the Euro is already being contemplated"
I think it is not what Rael predicted. Until single world currency is formally adopted by every country, the prediction cannot be counted as right. Now it is still quite vague if that can show up.
I think the biggest problem Rael has is he offers too few proofs. And the Clonaid is simply a joke. I think the major reason for this is Rael is not a scientist. He devoted his strength to the unnecessary things. For example, the gay right and many other such controversial things. It does not mean it is wrong. However,in my opinion, he should establish a lab fully devoting to the development of cloning technology. This is much more important and will help Raelian movement.
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| 12. | By kmarinas86 (kamarinas at uh d0t edu) from Space City, USA |
2010-08-16 |
| A world reserve currency other than the US dollar and the Euro is already being contemplated. However, if even if the US dollar tanks in two years, all that would be needed is something like 30% inflation and then the US dollar would be abandoned entirely in favor of the Euro or that world reserve currency being proposed. In terms of unemployment, the US economy has already collapsed, although our technological affluence and all the fixed assets acquired on credit prevent us from seeing this. As for the wars and many people dying that Rael predicted - it's already happening, though this was more prevalent during WWII in 1940's. The US economy will collapse further at least 15 years prior to all national fiat currencies being extinct. |
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| 11. | By chenling (chungchenling at yahoo d0t com) from roc |
2010-08-15 |
| In response to the questions posted by
I think the unequivocal answer is "the establishment of single world currency". If that does not happen in a short tiem frams such as two to threee years, there is no reason to believe in other predictions such as significant science progress by 2020 to 2030. It is too difficult to happen since current science is far away from what Rael described |
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| 10. | By kmarinas86 (kamarinas at uh d0t edu) from Space City, USA |
2010-08-14 |
| "So I still think it is best to wait for the downfall of economy system. if that does not happen in two years time frame, i guess it is time for Rael to hide." Questions: Which economies? How much is the downfall? What in the economy will fall? How long after the downfall will we be on the final leg of the journey that will take us to "the" single currency? Is the highlight of the downfall a specific event that becomes obvious as a result of a string of events spanning.... hours like 9/11? days like a stock market crash? weeks like a massive string of job layoffs? months like a supply chain interruption? years like a period of starvation? Who will not see it as a depression, and why? Who will predict it too early, and why? There is so much we don't know.... |
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| 9. | By chenling (chungchenling at yahoo d0t com) from ROC |
2010-08-14 |
| (Continued from previous messages)
So I still think it is best to wait for the downfall of economy system. if that does not happen in two years time frame, i guess it is time for Rael to hide. |
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| 8. | By chenling (chungchenling at yahoo d0t com) from ROC |
2010-08-14 |
| After reading Sage ali's well written report, I decided to leave a message again. He has some good points. First, there are indeed some inconsistencies in Rael' book. This is what I noted from day one i read his book. Second, Rael Movement becomes more and more intolerant of criticisms. In other words, it becomes a religion and it is no longer a fact seeking group.
However, I still do not think it is enough for me to conclude Rael is fake. There are many other reasons why i still do not think Rael is definitely fake. but one thing is for sure, Rael movement is too religious and Rael is not scientific even though he supports science. In my opinion, this is simply because Elohim still does not want us to know many science secrets . They still regard us as dangerous animals in the lab. That is why this Raelian movement is self contraditory in many aspects.
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| 7. | By ccl (chungchenling at yahoo d0t com) from ROC |
2010-07-07 |
| I Still have to say let us wait and see if following events can come true in the near future:
1. The collapse of economy.
2. The downfall of ISReal.
3. The future of LHC (Large Hadron Collider)
If none of the events happen, we can fairly conclude Rael is a fraud. If it happens, we will have to watch even longer time to see if Rael is real or not
Do not jump into conlusion at the moment. Be patient. Do not join either. Just stay and watch |
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DOTCOM (2010-07-07): That's good point. None of that event will happen in our life time, nor Rael ever will build the embassy, and our E.T. creator won't show up neither. If, I don't think so,
but if there is official contact made between E.T and human being, Rael will be the first person packs up and disappears.
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